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This is a guide to how to tell if a source is reliable and how to determine if an archetype is official. Remember that all factual claims need to be sourced. So if you say an archetype originates from a manga series, then a link to that manga series must be added. It's not necessary to have citations for more opinionated information, however, such as describing differences from other archetypes.

Sources should be added to the page using the {{Citation}} template.

Always Reliable[]

Level 1: Primary Source[]

The highest level of reliability is to get it directly from the source. This means using a professionally published manga, anime, light novel, or video game where the archetype is mentioned and used. This can either be in the title of the series, in promotional material, or a statement from the author. If an official media uses an archetype, then there is no question it is official.

When citing an official media, you should try to use one of the following:

  • The series' official website (i.e. Roshidere.com)
  • The studio in charge's official website (i.e. Crunchyroll)
  • A store where the item is being sold online (i.e. Amazon)
  • A database website where the media is cataloged (i.e. Visual Novel Database)

Another great method is directly citing the original media by uploading a screencap of the term being used in a manga or anime and detailing the chapter/episode and time-stamp of where it was mentioned.

Level 2: Japanese News/Journalism Sites[]

The second highest level of reliability is to find a professional quality Japanese news or journalism website that describes an archetype. This shows that the archetype is widespread enough to be covered by mainstream media.

Be Cautious[]

Level 3: Japanese Self-Published Works[]

The next highest reliability is with self-published Japanese works (i.e. doujin) that use an archetype. These will be allowed if the self-published work has managed to be published and sold by a reputable online store. Self-published works that are someone simply sharing a fanart on Twitter, Pixiv, Nico Nico, or another social media, however, will not because anyone can do this regardless of having credibility.

Level 4: Japanese Wikis[]

Much like with our wiki, anyone can edit these. That's why when using a Japanese wiki it is very important to be careful. Japanese wikis can be a great reference material for finding information, links to other legitimate sources, or giving additional context, but they should not be the primary source for determining legitimacy for this reason. It is also important to judge the quality of a wiki page before deciding to use it. Pages that have hundreds of revisions and lots of information are likely to be accurate, but a page with a single revision and two sentences is likely just made up by a random user. And since anyone can go on these sites and simply "make up" a new dere type on the spot, this is not a reliable source.

If you find a potential new archetype on a wiki you should always also Google it to see how many other sites are talking about it. If a wiki is the only site that mentions it, then it is not official.

Common wikis include:

Tip
  • From experience, Pixiv seems to be the best and most reliable wiki to use. Nico Nico is useful for some of the more popular archetypes, but it also has a ton of fake joke types (like Moodere for a tsundere cow, or Knobdere for a tsundere doorknob) and not a lot of information for even some of the more known types.

Level 5: Western News/Journalism Sites[]

Using a Western news or journalism site is fine, however, they should not be the primary source unless the archetype is from the "Western:" namespace. The reason for this is that most Western websites simply use our wiki to gather information for their article leading to false information sometimes getting spread. Citing them citing us would just create a circle where we are indirectly citing ourselves. They are, however, great for establishing notoriety in English-speaking communities.

Additionally, since these are Japanese archetypes a Japanese source will always take priority. If a Western source says one thing, but a Japanese source contradicts that claim then the Western source will be considered not reliable.

What Is Never Reliable[]

Personal Blogs[]

Blog websites where someone posts about an archetype are not considered official as you are trusting this one person to be correct which is not always true. People also like creating fake unofficial types of their own on these blogs like we do on this wiki. These should not be used unless it is just for establishing a date of when an archetype was first talked about (i.e. before this was official people were talking about it as far back as 2009). They may however be used as sources for popular unofficial types that originated outside of this wiki.

This includes sites such as:

  • Amino Apps
  • Japanese with Anime
  • Tumblr
  • hXcHector

Social Media Posts[]

Someone using a hashtag with a new archetype is not a reliable source and should not be used as anyone can post on these sites. If anyone can post information to a site with zero regulation or oversite, then it is not reliable. The only exception is for verified social media posts from anime/manga authors, anime companies, etc, since these fall under primary sources.

This includes sites such as:

  • Deviant Art
  • Nico Nico
  • Pixiv
  • Twitter
  • Urban Dictionary
  • YouTube

Western Wikis[]

Unlike Japanese wikis, Western wikis should never be used as reliable sources as the information is much more likely to be incorrect or have correct information lost in translation (as is the case with many dere types that have ammassed different meanings in the Western community). For example, the Japanese and English Wikipedia page entries on "Kuudere" both say entirely different things, which means that the English Wikipedia article is not reliable as a source. This is especially true for wikis like TVTropes that don't require sources and are largely based on opinions or made to be interesting as opposed to accurate. Western wikis may be linked to give the reader additional context on different characters or series, but they should never be relied on as a primary source due to a history of contradicting Japanese sources. Consider instead citing the sources linked at the bottom of that wiki page instead of the wiki itself.

This includes sites such as:

  • Fandom
  • TVTropes
  • Wikipedia
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