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Quotation HeartsIf I visit you in your dreams, I won't be a ghost or villain, but an angel.Quotation Hearts R
Ray, from Mystic Messenger

"Kichidere" (JP) is a term for a character who has gone insane and acts like a crazy lunatic, but whose romantic feelings toward their love interest are surprisingly cute and deredere. They have usually experienced some kind of psychological trauma during their childhood which caused them to develop severe mental illnesses and twisted ways of thinking. However, despite this side of them they will show a more loving and overly affectionate side towards their love interest. Often their love interest is the one who shows them happiness for the first time which causes them to fall in love. Their love interest will want to save them and help them to overcome their trauma and insanity. The love they have for their love interest will motivate them to continue improving themselves and slowly over time they will become a better and happier person. In some cases, with the help of their love interest they may even be able to completely overcome the trauma that caused their mental health issues and become a purely deredere and normal cheerful person.

Etymology

Meaning of the Term

Ryo Yajima from Megumarenai Otonatachi

Ryo Yajima from Megumarenai Otonatachi

Kichidere (キチデレ) is a combination of "kichigai" (キチガイ), meaning "madness, insanity (exhibiting a severely disordered state of mind), mentally ill, or lunatic (mentally ill and dangerous)", and "deredere" (デレデレ), a mimetic word for "being lovestruck".[2]

While kichigai is usually translated as "lunatic", it is generally a lot more offensive in Japanese, so much so that it was banned from being mentioned on Japanese television because it can be considered discriminatory against people with mental illnesses. The use of this word makes this dere type rarely used and mentioned in Japanese media.

Origin

The exact origin of this dere type is unknown, but use of it can be found on various Japanese websites as far back as 2006.[3]

The first (and currently only) known use of this dere type in official media is the 2013 boy's love romance manga series Megumarenai Otonatachi (JP), which had the tagline "Yandere vs Kichidere: The Ultimate Love Battle, War Begins!!!!". The series follows Masamune Miji, a NEET college student, who reunites with Ryo Yajima, a bishounen he had a crush on in high school. However, Yajima has become a twisted adult (this refers to the phenomenon where a person's thoughts, emotions, or behavior become distorted or twisted due to psychological issues or trauma) due to his unbearable adolescence. Nevertheless, Miji charges forwards, using his preconceptions and momentum as weapons to try to save him with the power of one-sided love.[4][1]

History

Charlotte Pudding split from One Piece 1

Charlotte Pudding's difference personality when looking at Sanji from ONE PIECE

Although not officially labeled as a kichidere in the series, one of the best examples of this archetype is the character Hitagi Senjougahara from the 2006 light novel series Bakemonogatari. At the start of the series Hitagi had a habit of threatening others by using stationary supplies as weapons when feeling endangered or jealous. Hitagi later revealed that she had a close brush with death when an unnamed disease threatened her life, barely surviving the ordeal through an extensive surgery. What happened to her caused her mother to seek refuge in a cult, which eventually initiated the deterioration of the Senjougahara household. Hitagi's mother lost the family's wealth to the cult, and one of the cult's high-ranking members attempted to assault Hitagi. She protected herself by hitting him with a spiked shoe, causing him serious injury. However, Hitagi's mother took the side of the attacker, abandoning the family and leaving them with a large debt. All of these experiences during her childhood left her with a lot of trauma and mental health issues. This all started to change after she met her love interest Koyomi Araragi. After spending time together she eventually falls in love with him and they start dating. While she usually acted a bit crazy, when it came to dating Araragi she showed a surprisingly cute and affectionate side. Later on in the series she overcame all of her trauma and finally became a completely normal and cheerful girl, chuckling at small things and growing out of her habits of threatening people.[5]

Another character who is considered one of the best examples of this type is Charlotte Pudding who was introduced in the manga series ONE PIECE in 2016. Pudding was a hybrid human from the Three-Eye Tribe who was constantly shamed by others while growing up, including by her own mother, for being a disgusting monster. This caused her very early on in her life to develop mental health issues and a severe complex about her third eye, which she would hide away in shame. Later in the story, she is given an arranged political marriage with the character Sanji, a thought she despised. The idea of having to be with someone who would find her repulsive started to drive her insane, to the point she even tried to assassinate him before the wedding. However, when Pudding shows Sanji her third eye and tells him this is the monster he is marrying, to her surprise he calls her eye beautiful which causes her to break down into tears. Following this point, Pudding would start to develop a personality disorder, struggling to maintain control of her feelings. She constantly switched between acting insane (kichi) and extremely cute and lovestruck (dere) over him.

Characteristics

Development

Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy dere from Harley Quinn 1

Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy from Harley Quinn

Quotation HeartsHarley Quinn: "Well, people change." Poison Ivy: "Yeah, yeah, people do change. I mean, look at you. What you did for me today. You, you showed me the Harls I always wanted to see, you know?" Harley Quinn: "You-you don't think I'm chaotic and crazy and make a bunch of messes?" Poison Ivy: "No, you definitely do that but you're trying to grow, and actually doing it. And that, I mean, for me that's what matters." Harley Quinn: "I love you, Ive." Poison Ivy: "I love you too, Harls.Quotation Hearts R
Poison Ivy about the growth of Harley Quinn after falling in love with her, from Harley Quinn

While they will not immediately change after becoming deredere and will continue to act insane to some degree even after falling in love, they will start trying to keep that side of them under control for the sake of their love interest and so they do not hurt them. Their love interest will want to help save them.[4] While they may relapse from time to time, the love they have for their love interest will motivate them to continue improving themselves and slowly over time they will become a better and happier person. In some cases, with the help of their love interest they may even be able to completely overcome the trauma that caused their mental health issues and become a purely deredere and normal cheerful person, while in others cases it will be something they continue to struggle with.[5]

Personality

Kichidere are characters who have gone insane and act like a crazy lunatic (kichi), but whose romantic feelings toward their love interest are surprisingly cute and affectionate (deredere). They are characters who have gone insane but are in a normal and loving relationship.

Kichi Side

Esdeath from Akame ga Kill kichi 2

Esdeath from Akame ga Kill!

Quotation HeartsNo one will love me. Because I'm an ugly freak. Like all the others, once you find out who I really am...Quotation Hearts R
Charlotte Pudding, from ONE PIECE

Kichidere have usually experienced some kind of psychological trauma during their childhood, such as psychological abuse or bullying, which caused them to develop severe mental illnesses and twisted ways of thinking. These mental health issues cause the kichidere to act insane the majority of the time. They may even display signs of self-hatred or being suicidal as a result of their trauma.[1][5]

They might also suffer from forms of personality disorders and struggle in dealing with this side of them or keeping it under control.

Dere Side

Esdeath from Akame ga Kill dere 2

Esdeath with Tatsumi from Akame ga Kill!

Quotation HeartsThe only girls who would talk to hopeless virgins like you are at best, late-blooming virgins with mental health issues such as myself. And, Araragi-kun... I love youQuotation Hearts R
Hitagi Senjougahara confessing her love to Koyomi Araragi, from Bakemonogatari

While they may act insane towards their love interest at the start, as they do towards everybody else, after falling in love their feelings will completely change. Despite their mental illnessess they will start to show a pure overly affectionate and loving deredere side towards their love interest. Often their love interest is the one who shows them happiness for the first time in their life which causes them to fall in love and show a surprisingly cute side of themselves. Their love interest will help them to overcome their trauma and insanity, which is something they may continue to struggle to keep under control.[5]

Differences From Other Archetypes

This archetype is very similar to yandere since both types are mentally ill characters who harbor deredere feelings for their love interest, but they are not the same. The main difference is that a yandere is a completely normal sane person at first who is sweet and affectionate but will turn crazy after falling in love because their love is too strong and slowly eats away at their sanity. This is contrast to a kichidere who will be crazy from the beginning as a result of psychological trauma but will develop a sweet and affectionate side after falling in love, basically acting as an inverse of yandere. A yandere is "dere at the start" and "mentally ill by the end", while a kichidere is "mentally ill at the start" and "dere by the end". Kichidere act surprisingly cute in their romantic relationship, unlike a yandere who is obsessive and stalkerish towards their love interest. A kichidere is also more likely to suffer from more serious mental illnesses such as being suicidal, which is unlikely to exist in a yandere character unless something were to happen to their love interest. Kichidere won't hide this crazier side of themselves, they can't help it, but this part of them won't get in the way of their relationship with their love interest after they have fallen in love with them.[5]

Kichidere could be seen as a dere type variation of menhera, at least for the more extreme crazy ones, for those who start menhera and later turn deredere. This is because the term "menhera" has largely replaced the word "kichigai" when referring to crazy mentally ill people due to the word's banning from Japanese media. The main difference of course is that not all menhera characters act crazy, they may just be very emotional or isolating.

Utsudere is also somewhat similar to kichidere, but the main difference is that utsudere only suffer from depression and walk around with a gloomy demeanor, while kichidere will also suffer from other psychological disorders and walk around with an insane demeanor.

It is also similar to hinedere in that psychological abuse changed them from a loving person and caused them to develop twisted ways of thinking, but the main difference is that the change is a lot worse in kichidere characters. While hinedere are abused to the point of becoming nihilistic and cynical, hiding their heart away behind a cold-hearted shell, kichidere are abused to the point of insanity. So in that sense, kichidere can be seen as a more extreme version of hinedere.

Similar Japanese Archetypes

  • Hinedere: A term for a character who has a nihilistic world view and at first appears to have a very negative, apathethic, and cynical personality, but is actually very caring, loving, and deredere on the inside
  • Menhera: A term for a character who is suffering from a mental illness.
  • Utsudere: A term for who is normally depressed and gloomy all the time but becomes cheerful, loving, and deredere when around their love interest.
  • Yandere: A term for a character whose love, admiration, and devotion to their love interest is so strong that it causes them to become mentally unstable.

List of Characters

See Kichidere/Japanese Characters to see characters from Japanese media.
See Kichidere/Non-Japanese Characters to see characters from non-Japanese media.

Gallery

References

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 Megumarenai Otonatachi "Yandere vs Kichidere" The Ultimate Love Battle, War Begins!!!!. Edge Comix (2013/07/26).
  2. What is Kichidere?. Pixiv Encyclopedia (2014/05/09).
  3. Kamakura Diary. Snow-Man (2006/10/04).
  4. 4.0 4.1 Megumarenai Otonatachi "Yandere vs Kichidere" The Ultimate Love Battle, War Begins!!!!. Yamashita Satoshi (2013/07/26).
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 5.4 About Kichidere and Yandere. Ameblo (2011/04/27). “Kichidere is "kichigai-dere". It's a deredere for people who have gone insane. Yandere is also insane and dere, so they are the same, right? But that's not true, it's not the same. Yandere→At first they start out as normal girls, but then they gradually break down and become insane because of romantic feelings. Kichidere→Insane from the start, but their love feelings are surprisingly normal and deredere. In the case of Kotonoha-sama, the representative of yandere, she starts out as a normal girl, but when she loves someone too much, she breaks down. Hitagi Senjogahara, the representative of kichidere (in my opinion), she's a bit crazy and strange from the beginning, but when she gets involved with the main character, she falls in love with him. I think she's cute. She's cute and cute.”
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Standalone

Burikko ♥︎ Charao ♥︎ Chuunibyou Dojikko Donkan Gag Character Genkikko Hanahaki Disease Hetare Hikikomori Idol Ijimekko Ikemen Kaiju Kuishinbou Kyouai Mahou Shoujo Megane Meganekko Menhera (Fashion) Miko Moe Otaku Sentou Kyou Siscon Sukebe Tennen S Yamato Nadeshiko

Androgynous

Bishounen Bokukko Dansou no Reijin Futanari Ikemen Joshi Josou Danshi Nantaika Nekama Nyotaika Okama Orekko Otenba Musume Otoko Masari Otokonoko

Criminal

Sukeban Yakuza Yankii

Dere

Bakadere Biridere Bokodere Butsudere Dandere Darudere Deredere Dorodere Erodere Gandere Goudere Gundere Hajidere Himedere Hinedere Kamidere Kichidere Kiridere Kuudere M Dere Nyandere Onidere Rindere Roshidere S Dere Shindere Shundere Tsundere (Deretsun Tsun-Aho Tsun-Ama Tsunbaka Tsundora Tsunneko Tsun-Pure Tsunpuri Tsunshun Tsuntere) Tsuyodere Undere Usodere Utsudere Uzadere Wandere Yandere (Yanderu) Yandere (Yankii) Yoidere Zondere

Gire

Buchigire Majigire Tsungire Yangire

Hybrid

Juujin Kemono Kemonomimi Mecha Monster Danshi Monster Musume

Other

Western Unofficial

veDere Types
Japanese Standard

Bakadere Biridere Bokodere Butsudere Dandere Darudere Deredere Dorodere Erodere Gandere Goudere Gundere Hajidere Himedere Hinedere Kamidere Kichidere Kiridere Kuudere M Dere Nyandere Onidere Rindere Roshidere S Dere Shindere Shundere Tsundere Tsuyodere Undere Usodere Utsudere Uzadere Wandere Yandere (Yanderu) Yandere (Yankii) Yoidere Zondere

Variations

Deretsun Tsun-Aho Tsun-Ama Tsunbaka Tsundora Tsunneko Tsun-Pure Tsunpuri Tsunshun Tsuntere

Western Standard

Bocchandere Byoukidere Kanedere Kekkondere Nemuidere Oujidere Oujodere Smugdere Teasedere Thugdere

Variations

Ahodere (Western) Kamidere (Western) Kidere Mayadere (Western) Megadere (Western)

Other

Dere Types Unofficial Dere Types

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